On this episode of the Web Video Marketing Show podcast, Ryan Spanger talks to Aaron Thomas about autocues/teleprompters and how they can improve your on camera presenting. So, keep listening for Aaron’s tips on how save time and money using autocues.
Memorable Moments in the Industry [00:03:06] Aaron shares a great story about the time he met Sting
Why use an Autocue? [00:04:54] Aaron talks about the value of having a teleprompter in video production and how it could save you time and money
Will a Professional be Better? [00:06:00] Comparing a professional teleprompter operator to whoever is available
Learning what an Autocue is [00:08:56] An explanation of exactly what a teleprompter is and how it works.
Staying Natural When the Camera is on you [00:11 :47:00] Aaron shares his tips to keep reading from an autocue whilst looking natural.
Autocue Means the Script can’t Change? [00:15:51:00] Ryan and Aaron discuss the value in adjusting the script as you are shooting and why that can make a subject present naturally.
Will it Look Like I’m Just Reading it? [00:17:19:03] Making sure that a subject doesn’t appear to be reading directly from a monitor is important, Ryan and Aaron discuss their techniques to ensure that this doesn’t happen.
Autocue On the Cheap [00:19:21:00] Aaron gives his opinion on DIY teleprompter systems and shares his tips for making it work best.
Aaron’s Book [00:25:31:00] Ryan asks Aaron about the success of his book on Amazon and what people have responded best to.
Tips & Tricks [00:28:23:00] Some great final tips for presenting naturally in front of a camera using a teleprompter.
Ryan Spanger: Hi, this is Ryan Spanger. About 12 years ago, I started a video production company in Melbourne, Australia called Dream Engine.
Making videos is a huge passion for me. In this Podcast, I’ll be sharing with you a lot of the ideas and techniques that I use in my video production business. I hope you enjoy the show and it gives you clear, actionable ideas that you can implement in your business right now to improve your web video marketing and build a stronger connection with your audience.
Welcome to the Web Video Marketing Show, and today I’ve got Aaron Thomas on the show. Now, Aaron is an online media strategist, executive producer, teacher and founder and CEO of Your World Productions, also known as the Teleprompter Kings.
Aaron is has helped thousands of presenters to confidently deliver their message using teleprompters or autocue as we call it here in Australia. These presenters include corporate executives, heads of states, well known celebrities, entrepreneurs and politicians.
Also, Aaron recently hit three Amazon best seller list with his book, Teleprompter Bible: 10 Techniques to Teleprompter Mastery for Corporate and Online Video Production. We’re definitely in the company of teleprompter royalty here. This guy is like the Einstein of the autocue.
If you make videos, if you present in front of camera or on stage, if you do face to camera videos, or if you’re helping people present better in front of camera, then keep listening.
Aaron, good to have you on the Web Video Marketing Show.
Aaron Thomas: Thanks for having me Ryan. I appreciate it.
Ryan Spanger: I’ve told the listeners a little bit about you and your background. Can you tell us a bit more about what you do. You’re based in New Jersey? Tell us a little bit more about yourself.
Aaron Thomas: I started a video production company back in 2003, and I really only started it because I’ve always been an entreprenuer at heart and my wife had studied radio and film production in college. I thought, “Well, you know, let’s use that knowledge that you have and let’s start a business.” I had it on my website that we had a teleprompter and my only goal was to build to find companies that wanted video production and also want to use a teleprompter.
Smaller producers started to call and then large producers started to call me and say, “Hey, you know, you have a teleprompter and well we can, you know, do you rent that out?” I’m like, “Yeah.” We I ran out to service. Then I began to get a few more prompters and then a few more after that.
Now, I’ve really transitioned my company from being primarily a corporate video production company to being a company that primarily provides teleprompter services.
Ryan Spanger: I know that you’ve worked with some quite high profile people with some heads of states and celebrities and something like that. I’ve got to ask, if there’s any stories that you can share with us. Any fun anecdotes of maybe some famous people that we might know.
Aaron Thomas: I was hired to prompt for someone in Manhattan New York, Upper West Side. I was there and we were all prepping up and set up the gear and things like that. I’m just really into the job, and so they gave me the scripts. I’ll load up the script into the teleprompter and then I said, “Okay, you know what? Instead of having one person there as a talent, we want to have two people here.” It was the husband and wife. The wife’s going to have some lines and the husband will have some of the other lines. I said, “Okay, all right.”
I said, “All right.” They said, “Okay, so use an S or a T, so that the letter S or a T … Use the S for him and use the T for her.” I’m like, “Okay, well who’s S and who’s T?” Then they said, “Okay, well, T is for Trudy.” That’s his wife. “And S is for Sting.” Then I saw, I was prompting for the artist Sting and I was so into what I was doing, I didn’t even realize right in front of me here is Sting and I’m at his house. I’m at Sting’s house prompting.
That was really cool. I was able to get a picture with them afterwards, but I was like, “Oh my goodness.”
Ryan Spanger: That’s funny, and you only realized it at that moment?
Aaron Thomas: Yes. It was kind of hysterical really, but Sting was actually very very cool. I will say virtually every high profile person I’ve worked with has been cool. There’s been a few, there’s only been maybe one, two or three that had not been, but most of the celebrities are really really nice to work with.
Ryan Spanger: That’s awesome, that’s good to hear. We’re not dishing any dirt here, but I like that Sting story. That’s very cool. In my video correction business, we use teleprompters or autocues quite a lot. We use them for our clients to make their life easier because they’re often CEO’s, or people working in the business, they’re not trained actors. Their skill is not in remembering lines.
To be able to give them a teleprompter just makes their life so much easier. I use a lot in the videos that I make as well, so I’m sold already, but for the audience listening to this, maybe some people haven’t used it before. It might be people making videos or starting to make their own videos. Help them to understand why this is a cool topic, because this is not motion graphics. It’s not immediately obvious why this is cool, but when you get into it, it can really transform your videos.
Give us a bit of the elevated picture about why people need to listen up and what’s exciting about this.
Aaron Thomas: I’m a huge proponent of teleprompters, and that’s why I have transitioned my business. I’ll tell you, when I’ve seen the huge differences that back before I was using teleprompters and let’s say for instance you had this corporate talking head and the person deliver the message.
I’ll tell you, it was a nightmare at times trying to cut it all together because, they kind of said it right here, but then over here, they said this. Just trying to get them to say the whole entire statement that they need to say, and then I’m using this. I’m chopping this up. I’m chopping that up. It was just nightmares.
Having a teleprompter there, that executive can see his or her speech. That just makes it so much easier for them to deliver their message. Having the autocue doesn’t mean that there won’t be multiple takes because you usually do want to have takes. Sometimes, they still might mess up even though the words are there, but there’s a huge difference between the delivering.
Then, by having it, you guys just saved yourself so much post production work and trying to get everything together. That was the first thing that I saw. Then, even for myself, I’ve done some things where, I’d deliver some messages on camera, and even though I’ve had a teleprompter, there’s been times when I thought, “Oh, you know what? I can just wing this.” It’s just difficult.
There’s something about having … something about when the record light comes on that sometimes you freeze up or you just don’t say things just the right way, or you forget a particular line. Having that autocue there just makes it so much easier to deliver. It’s like the difference between night and day.
Not only that though, but I would say that, especially if you’re going to provide services for a client, then I think that you should have a professional teleprompter operator. I think it makes a huge difference between having a professional there or just even having one of your guys. I just got off the phone with a potential client who says, “Yeah, you know, we’re thinking about getting one and having one of our guys do it.”
I said, “You know what? That is your cheapest option, I mean, if you’re looking at cutting cost …” because he said that he had a project, that was multiple days, it will last for weeks and stuff like that. I said, “Well, you definitely will be … the more affordable option is to have one of your guys to do it.” I said, “But, that won’t be the most effective option.”
Especially starting off because there’s a skill to it. There’s a skill to build to have it, to have the system there, to be able to adjust to the speed of the talent. Also to build and make some recommendations, because sometimes, and I may be getting a little ahead because you didn’t necessarily …
Ryan Spanger: Let’s come to that because I definitely want to talk about the difference between a professional operator versus do it yourself, versus buying your own little iPad prompter. Maybe before we even get to that, some people might not have ever even seen a teleprompter or worked with one before. Can you just briefly explain to people what it is and how it works.
Aaron Thomas: What it is, basically, is if you think about a cue card. Usually, if you think about having a 3×5 index card and you have your words there, and you have your things there. Basically, that’s a prompt, but that is a written prompt. Now, you have electronic words. You can look right at a screen. Basically, what you have is that, you have a laptop. The laptop is sending the signal, just like [anything 00:09:23], so it send a signal to a monitor.
From that monitor, it’s being reflected on a piece of glass. Obviously, it’s a two sided glass. Think about like in a police precinct to where you can see through one side, but the other side can’t see you. That’s how the teleprompter operates. The glass is that the talent can see the words being reflected off of the monitor, but it also allows the camera, which is on the other side. The camera can see the talent, but the talent cannot see the camera.
Basically, what it is, is that, the words scroll from the bottom to the top and that allows you to be able to read, and they could be adjusted. During certain portions of anything in which you are speaking, some portions you’re going to speak faster than other times. Or you may want to use inflection and in using inflection, you’re going to adjust your speed. When you do that, then the prompter can be adjusted as well.
It’s a great experience because the words are just right there, and in some cases, you may want to have eight lines of your text there, or it could be six lines, or it could be twelve lines. That all can be adjusted. The size or the fonts can be adjusted. The colors with the fonts. It’s just a great experience to be able to look right in to the camera.
That’s a great thing too, is that, you’re making direct contact, eye contact with the camera even though you can’t see the camera because all you can see is just your words.
Ryan Spanger: I’ve had situations where I’ve worked with clients and they’re very competent, very smart. They’ve gone in front of audiences a lot and they’ve come in quite confidently saying that they’re going to wing it. They’re going to memorize it. As soon as the camera goes on, and they’re sitting there in front of the lights, they feel the pressure and they freeze up, and they’re actually really surprised.
They can’t even work out why they’re struggling with it, but you’re right, it is tough to get in front of the camera and present. When we’ve set up the autocue for them, it’s just made their life so much easier, but the biggest challenge that I find, is in helping them to present naturally because it often just looks like they’re reading.
To me, this is the number one challenge, is how can I help my clients and how can I present in a much more natural way? It’s actually difficult for people to tell if I’m reading or if I’m just speaking naturally.
Aaron Thomas: I think the key for that is to practice the speech. That’s something that most of you don’t want to do, because they feel like, “Well, the words are going to be there, so why do I need to practice?” By practicing the speech, rehearsing it, going over it a few times, and really internalizing it, it would really help you to being able to deliver that message.
Yes, I see the same thing. I see it to where sometimes, I’ll have the, maybe the admin assistant of this executive or the executive assistant will call up and says, “Hey, yes, we want to have this video shot of Jim. You know, and Jim is a great speaker so he doesn’t need a teleprompter.” Then, I usually beg the assistant to allow us to bring a teleprompter there, because I’m like … I explained it, “Hey, I’ve seen this a lot to where people who are very good, extemporaneous speakers, when they get in front of the camera, sometimes they are a totally different person. And having that teleprompter there would definitely help them out.”
By actually being familiar with your speech and practicing it and rehearsing it, and even rehearsing it in the mirror. If you really really want to nail it, that is really a good way to being able to deliver that message and to look very natural.
Sometimes, what can happen too is that, your eyes can shift around. One of the things that you want to do is that, you want to have the camera back a little bit further if you can see your eyes shifting a lot. Then, you can also adjust the fonts. Maybe you need a little bit larger font, or in some cases, maybe a smaller font. These are some things that can be used. These are some techniques that can actually help you to be able to look into that camera, deliver that message, because you already know it. Really, the prompter is just helping you to remember your lines.
Ryan Spanger: That’s a really good point. That just because you’re using a prompter, doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t rehearse. Maybe sometimes, there’s a temptation because you know you’ve got that prompter that you don’t really look at the stuff as much as you should.
The other thing that I’m thinking about is, one of the other give aways of it not looking natural is that it’s too perfect. Do you think in a way it’s worth, like if you listen to the way that we speak, we sometimes stumble over a word. We might repeat a word a second time like I did there. We might pause while we’re trying to think of another word. It’s actually not smooth. You can almost hear my thought process as I’m speaking. Do you think that’s worth injecting some of that into your presenting so actively making it not perfect, so it’s actually looking more natural?
Aaron Thomas: I think in some cases, it’s very good to do that, but I do think also it might depend on the presenter and the message. On some cases, let’s say for instance if you have for instance, a company who has to rehabilitate their image because of something major or some major [news story 00:14:42] or something that came out, whatever. Then they might want to look really crisp and to … Or, in some cases, maybe that they might want to have those imperfections but, it might be something where it may be very important for them to nail it, to just look very professional, very straightforward and to nail it.
I think that, it’s very good to have conversational language. I think sometimes, the language is too formal. Our script should be, the way that we speak versus written language, or written text because for instance, we’re not writing a textbook. We’re speaking to people. Instead of saying, “Ryan has not any …” Whatever. You can say, “Ryan doesn’t have … Or Ryan …” You can use contractions and things like that.
Basically you can, by speaking conversationally, then I think that that allows you to be able to connect better with the audience and also, as you said, it doesn’t look so perfect, it doesn’t look so polished. It doesn’t look artificial because you are speaking conversationally.
Ryan Spanger: That’s a really good point. Sometimes a client will send me a script which will look great on paper, or on the screen, but when you read it out, the sentences are too long. The words are too big. It doesn’t flow. They’re using words that they wouldn’t speak. Sometimes, I find it helps that during the course of presenting, we’ll actually edit as we go. Like we’ll pause and say, “No, that just didn’t sound natural. Let’s change a word here. Let’s shorten that sentence.” Do you think there’s a value in actually adjusting and editing the script as you go sometimes?
Aaron Thomas: It is definitely a value in adjusting the script. In fact, that is part of the process. Sometimes people feel like, “Oh yeah.” There’s been a lot of times when people have said to me, “Aaron, I’m sorry that we’re making these changes.” I’m like, “No, this is the process.” Revisions is part of the process because even with that, sometimes, it could be a sequence of words that just doesn’t flow right.
By having making those revisions, changing the words around, that can really help you to deliver that message, deliver your message well. One of the things too, and this is just with any time at your own camera, is that you want to be grounded and not move around and not, for instance, like being in chairs where you can like swivel around and things like that. Those type of things, things that we already know as producers, we have to make sure that, this is a teleprompter session, but all of the fundamentals still do apply towards that when you’re there with your talent.
Ryan Spanger: Most definitely. One of the other things that I found has helped is that, in the actual teleprompter program on the computer, I’ve made the margins quite thin. In the past when I first started, I would use up a lot of the screen with the text. You’d sometimes see people’s eyes moving from left to right. You could see that they’re reading. Now, I really just use up only the middle part of the screen and you’re not seeing that eye movement now which can kind of look a little bit shifty. Have you noticed that?
Aaron Thomas: Yup, and that is one technique that we use a lot, is to bring in the margins when we see a lot of eye movement, because that definitely can cause the eye movement to be reduced. Basically, there’s less real estate that your eyes have to view and that helps out a lot.
You definitely want to bring in the margins if you see that, and, or in a combination of bringing in the margins and also when possible or if possible, bring the camera back a little bit. That also can help out too, because now when you’re further away, then now your eyes can scan the screen which is … I’m sorry, scan the mirror which is the reflection of the monitor, which is your words there. The combination of both of those can actually help you to deliver your message without your eyes shifting a lot.
Ryan Spanger: There’s a lot of different kinds of teleprompters. There’s your service where you offer this fully professional service with the best equipment. There may sometimes be situations where someone is making some short face to camera videos from home with a camcorder. I know that you would recommend people using a professional service where possible, but I’d say there’s maybe times where doing something yourself can work just as well.
Let’s talk about the range of different types of prompters that are out there because there’s a lot of, I guess, exciting new technology with things like iPads. Tell us about the range of equipments. The pluses and the minuses of the low end stuff versus what you use.
Aaron Thomas: The thing with the iPad is that, the iPad teleprompter by the way, they are very fast. It’s a very rolling segment of teleprompter use. It’s becoming very popular. I have problems with using an iPad on professional, meaning that, for instance, if I’m paid … If I’m the paid producer of a shoot, I don’t like them as much, although I do feel like they’re better than not having any at all.
I’ll tell you why I don’t like them as much, is because they are harder to control the pace, but you do have manual controllers. You have wired controllers that you can use to help control the pace of the scrolling of the text. I would definitely recommend if you are going to use one to have a wired controller.
Now, in many cases, you can also control it from another IOS device and that part, I don’t like as much. Only because, there could always be other radio interference. Again, having it is better than not having it at all. Meaning that, if your options are either having like an iPad teleprompter or use another tablet teleprompter, or not having one at all, then you definitely should have one there.
One of the problems I have is to actually controlling the pace of it because usually what happens is that, someone pretty much just uses a general pace, a general scrolling speed and that’s not veritable because again, we don’t speak at the same pace, because if we do, then it’s kind of monotone and you’re talking the same way all the time.
I definitely do recommend if you’re going to do it, then there are smaller systems that are … They are called camera-mounted teleprompters. There are ones that you can use with your DSLR. I like those better because those are set up to be controlled from a laptop.
Also you actually could use a tablet too to control them. I like those better. I just like those much better. I really do. I just feel like that you have more control over what’s going on. You have range from using your iPad as a monitor to having smaller monitors out there and they’re being controlled by laptops, or again, you can also use a tablet. I know you can use an IOS device. I’m sure that you can probably use Android devices as well to control the pace.
Basically, the higher you get up and one of the things that you actually are getting is that, usually you would get some software with it. The software can make a difference. No, I’m sorry. The software can make a huge difference depending on what you’re doing. There are just various applications. There are various things you can do as far as with text. There are things that you can do as far as quick shortcuts, because sometimes, you may have a project where it’s just so much text that has to be read, and so you want to be quick and you want to be able to make changes quickly. The better software you have, then that will allow you to do that.
Also, the higher up the system, then sometimes, the more configurations, you can use that system for. I’m very fortunate in the systems that we have, we can configure them several different ways to go in front of prompters. I’m sorry, in front of camera, so that if you have a DSLR, or if you’re using an Alexa, then we can use the same system in both because we can configure them differently. It’s like a transformer where you can set them up differently and so, it’s very modular. I like those because it gives you a lot more options when you’re there on the set.
Then, I would say that, generally speaking, I like larger screens, meaning I love 17 inch screens, 17 inch prompter systems, but again, I do know that sometimes, budget has a lot to do with it. I would say, probably a minimum of a ten inch system was what I really liked, unless you’re going to do something just for yourself, then maybe you can go down to an eight inch system if you’re just going to have it for yourself.
Ryan Spanger: It sounds like your advice is, if you’re just getting started and maybe you’re working from home. You’re just starting to make some videos for your website and you don’t have the budget, then better to use some entry level prompter like an iPad rather than nothing at all, but you’re going to get much more of an advantage using a professional system with a professional operator. What do you think about, is it possible to actually run a teleprompter and actually run it yourself? Or is it better to have an operator?
Aaron Thomas: I’m always a big proponent of having an operator. Let’s put it this way, if we’re going to shoot talent and we’re going to have a prompter, 100% of the time, always have two different people, because it’s just hard to have your … in fact, it’s impossible to have your attention on both at the same time. Because, what happens is that, let’s say for instance, even if it’s a lock down shot and the camera is not going to move, what usually happens is that the talents doesn’t stay in one position. They might start leaning to the left or leaning to the right, and now all of a sudden, they’re not framed up the way they really should be, but you don’t know that because you’re operating the teleprompter.
Now, if you’re doing it for yourself and you’re shooting yourself, you’re shooting a video of yourself I should say, then I think that it’s good to be able to do that, and you can just use your mouse or if you just want to practice using an iPad teleprompter and just set one general speed and then just working it out that way, that’s fine.
I just wouldn’t want to have a lot of … For instance, I wouldn’t want to go like ten minutes that way, because you probably are going to mess yourself up. Maybe if you have like one or two minute, or maybe even three minute maximum sessions, then I think like an iPad teleprompter can work out great.
Ryan Spanger: There’s a danger in trying to cover too much. Let’s talk about your book which you’ve done really well with on Amazon. What are the things that people have really responded to in your book? What sort of feedback are you getting? What are the areas that people are saying are most interesting and useful?
Aaron Thomas: I think the most interesting and useful one that people have found is just the preparation for the teleprompter session. Because, sometimes people think that you should not or you don’t need to prep for it and to get ready for it, and just having very straightforward language to say, “Hey, here are some things that you need to consider before you have the session.” Even things like get to know the teleprompter operator. The simple things like that, because that person really is, for a few moments, they control your destiny a little bit.
The friendlier you are with them and that rapport that you build really is the rapport, it would really, will help your session using the teleprompter to go better.
Ryan Spanger: That makes a lot of sense. I mean, I’ve worked with a good prompter operator. He’s not only good at turning up and setting up the equipment and running it, but actually connecting with the person on camera, and even giving suggestions, but not going beyond their position but just gently making suggestions and recommendations. Helping people to relax in front of camera. Is that something … I imagine that’s something that you must do a lot in your business, is actually not just doing the technical prompting, but actually helping people to present better.
Aaron Thomas: Yes. The psychology side of it is a big part of it. Sometimes, what I’ll do is that, when I … Again, it depend on if it’s appropriate, especially if I’m not the producer, I may whisper to the talent and say, “Hey, you know what? The words are going to be there, everything is going to be there when you need it. If you speed up, I’m going to speed up. If you slow down, I’m going to slow down. So, I’m always going to be there for you, okay?”
Even saying something like that can really help them out, because sometimes, I’ll see in their faces the anxiety that, “Okay, is what I’m going to say going to be there when I need it?” I can see the anxiety building up in them and I’m like, “Hey, don’t worry about it. I got you right here. You know, we’re going to be okay.” Then they’re like, “Okay, thanks a lot Aaron.”
That really does help out and then, as you said, being able to sometimes even like whisper a little bit to the producer. Sometimes, I’ll even say to the producer, “Hey, did you see a lot of eye movement?” If he says yes, then I’m like, “Okay, you know, I can make this bigger.” “I can do this.” Or I can bring the margins in like you mentioned. Then, sometimes, they’ll say, “Yeah, you know what Aaron, let’s try that out.”
It’s things like that, just because what I say is that, the teleprompter operator is part of the crew and their job is to make the producer look good and to make the talent look good.
Ryan Spanger: Any other tips to help people relax and present better in front of camera?
Aaron Thomas: I would just say, as far as just on … I cannot stress enough as far as being familiar with the information and that goes for everybody. I mean, it goes for that CEO that, someone else wrote the script for and it goes for us too. If we’re going to create content videos for our businesses, just becoming familiar with it. Also too, if there are words that are a little bit more difficult to pronounce, then you can phonetically spell them because the only person who would know that is just you and the talent. Or if you are the talent, you are the only one that’s going to know it.
If it’s difficult to pronounce a word, just do that, or I’ll say two more things. One is that, sometimes you might want to break down the paragraphs. I would have short paragraphs, maybe just two, three sentences maximum in some of the paragraphs especially if they’re long sentences. Just break that up because that really does help you to be able to read better and present better with the teleprompter. Also too, you can make things bold if you need to, or maybe have something italicized.
Then lastly, I’ll say that, if you’re going to have things like, for instance, if you’re going to use dollars, the word dollar … Five thousand dollars. If you’re going to say that, then instead of using the dollar sign, I would just write out the word five thousand dollars, D-O-L-L-A-R-S as opposed to using a dollar sign. I’ve seen people who are just very smart, they know numbers, but all of a sudden, they’ll say five million or they’ll say fifty thousand or things like that, because they’re kind of nervous. Or they’ll say five hundred. Things like that.
It’s just good to have it all written out, because then, you’re only going to say the numbers that are right there in front of you.
Ryan Spanger: That makes sense because it just means people are spending less energy and focus on interpreting what’s on screen, and they can just focus purely on their delivery. Any last words of advice for people who are thinking about using a teleprompter or maybe people who use it, who just want to improve their performance?
Aaron Thomas: I would say, to consider purchasing my book and I’m not saying that to plug my book [inaudible 00:30:41], but only because I’ve had people say that, “You know what? This is so practical.” It’s a Kindle book. It’s only 38 pages in length, but it really does … It gives you some good tools and it actually gives, at the end of it, it has different screen shots, so that way you can actually see what the talent sees when they look into a prompter. You can actually see what it looks, and then also you can see the inner workings like what’s behind the hood.
We actually give some shots to build just to show you that and that’s something else that people have found very helpful, like, “Oh, now I know what this is. Now I see how this actually works.”
Ryan Spanger: You can check out the book on Kindle, and I’m going to put a link in the show notes. It’s called Teleprompter Bible: 10 Techniques to Teleprompter Mastery for Corporate and Online Video Production.
Hey Aaron, thank you. It’s been great talking to you. I’ve picked up some good tips there for the work that we do using a teleprompter.
Aaron Thomas: All right, thanks a lot Ryan. I appreciate you having me.
Ryan Spanger: That’s episode 28 of the Web Video Marketing Show. If you want to check out Aaron’s book, head over to webvideomarketing.com, episode 28 and you’ll find the link there. Thanks a lot for listening. Bye.
Ryan Spanger is one of Melbourne’s most respected and sought-after video production professionals. Ryan founded Dream Engine in 2001, and specializes in helping medium to large corporates, government departments, and the non-proﬁt sector to connect with their audience by using video.
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